Radiator tail leaking (2024)

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  • 20 Oct 2019
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Just installed a new radiator and valves for mother-in-law, had to cut and shut some pipe but all good... except the damn tails on the radiator (where they connection into the actual radiator) are leaking. I've taken them apart again, cleaned up, plenty of ptfe and screwed back in, and still dripping. I cant physically do them any tighter into the radiator, so at a loss as to what to do now? Thinking of trying boss white or something? Words of wisdom welcome, as never had anything like this happen before.

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  • 20 Oct 2019
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20 wraps of ptfe tape

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  • 20 Oct 2019
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Tails do not have an end, so you can screw them as much as you want, if the thread is not sealed, they will leak.
I've never been in your situation, but I have seen a plumber using ls-x on both threads (radiator and tail) as well as the ptfe tape.
Another thing a plumber told me is to always screw the tails in without any ptfe first, unscrew and hoover any metal shavings.
Got to say, new radiators have plenty.

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  • 20 Oct 2019
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some modern rads need an awful lot of ptfe

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  • 20 Oct 2019
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Use gas PTFE tape, 7 wraps, turn onto the thread anticlockwise when tail held in left hand thread on the right, so when screwed in, the tape doesn't loosen. Tighten into the rad tapping 3/4 of the way in at least.

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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If you mean the join goung into the rad, wrap ptfe 16 -20 times.

If its the bolt onto the valve, wrap ptfe around the olive 3 times.

Post up a pic

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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Olives don’t need PTFE tape.

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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Mat-Moo said:

? Thinking of trying boss white or something? Words of wisdom welcome, as never had anything like this happen before.

Boss white and hemp Radiator tail leaking (17) you should be able to get a small packet of hemp from a plumbers merchant.

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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That paste (post 9) sounds like an epoxy glue. Good luck taking the tail out again if you use it!

As said above, enough wraps of PTFE wound in the right direction (see Madrab above) will seal yet enable the joint to be dismantled in the future.

I'd start with 15 to 20 wraps of ordinary (thin) PTFE. Screw the tail in. If it doesn't start to get a bit tight after 4 or 5 turns (threads), unscrew, remove tape, and replace with + 5 wraps (so 20 to 25) and try again.

If you screw it all the way in so that the tail hits the open end of the radiator's female thread, it will never seal.

If the above doesn't work, try Loctite 55, but remember to "rough up" the male threads on the tail.

Others suggest Loctite 577, but I've never used it so can't comment.

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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winston1 said:

Olives don’t need PTFE tape.

They do if they (compression joints) are leaking. People wrongly assume you put the ptfe on the thread of a compression fitting. If you need ptfe, it goes on the olive as thats were the leak will be from.

But on rad tails going into rad, its16-20turns of ptfe tape on the thread.

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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winston1 said:

Olives don’t need PTFE tape.

Not necessarily the olives, but applied to the olive where an olive has been overtightend, distorting the pipe, and customer or landlord won’t pay for a re-pipe Radiator tail leaking (23)

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  • 21 Oct 2019
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Lashings of PTFE tape seems to of done the job! Thanks all

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Radiator tail leaking (2024)

FAQs

Can you over tighten radiator tails? ›

If you over-tighten them then you might deform the 'O' ring and no seal occurs. To avoid this, you need to put them in just hand-tight and then about a quarter turn with a spanner will be fine.

Why wont my radiator tails seal? ›

Start with a couple of turns...then build up to several layers mimicking a tapered thread. Don't forget to wind the tape in the same direction as you are turning the fitting... And as Terrymac says Fernex LS-X leak sealer is VERY effective sealant to achieve a belt-and-braces job!

How much PTFE tape to use on radiator tails? ›

When applying the tape clockwise, it's recommended that you wrap it around the thread three or four times. This is thick enough to prevent leaks, but not too thick that you can't get the nut on.

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How tight should radiator fittings be? ›

When fitting the valve tail in to the bush turn it finger tight then using a spanner turn it until there is only moderate resistance. Using a 4” spanner it is difficult to over tighten. A thread sealant must be applied to the radiator end caps and to the valve tail threads to get a water tight seal.

Do you need radiator tails? ›

Basically, rad tails can be thought of as a finishing detail for a radiator or towel rail, essential for encasing valves and making sure they can perform to their optimal capacity.

How does an egg fix a radiator leak? ›

Maybe you're Martha Stewart, and you're on your way to make a frittata. RAY: Anyway, you realize you've got a radiator leak. If the leak is small enough and you drop a raw egg into the radiator, pieces of the egg might “cook” and harden, clogging the hole that's letting coolant leak out.

How do you temporarily seal a radiator leak? ›

Use pepper to seal small leaks.

The pepper, like sealant or egg yolks, will travel through the coolant system and get caught in the crack as the pressure tries to flush it out. This will create a temporary seal that you can use to hold coolant and pressure long enough to drive for a short time.

How to stop a leaking radiator tail? ›

Often, a leak at the radiator valve coupling nut can often be fixed by simply retightening the coupling. If this fails, you'll need to replace the olive inside the coupling. To do this you have to drain the heating system of water and then loosen the nut between the leaking pipe and the radiator.

What happens if you use too much PTFE tape? ›

If the tape is wrapped in a counterclockwise direction (or against the direction of the thread) it will unravel when mating into the female connection. Also, do not use too much Teflon tape as this could be counterproductive and prevent the joint from sealing properly and/or causing the tape to gum up.

When should you not use PTFE tape? ›

You should not use Teflon tape in compression fittings. The actual airtight seal is not at the treads. I tape the treads sometimes, to keep the treads clean. Make sure the end is not covered with any part of the tape to avoid interfering with the actual seal.

How do you stop a radiator leaking from the bottom? ›

Often, a leak at the radiator valve coupling nut can often be fixed by simply retightening the coupling. If this fails, you'll need to replace the olive inside the coupling. To do this you have to drain the heating system of water and then loosen the nut between the leaking pipe and the radiator.

How to fix a leaking radiator valve nut without? ›

First, try tightening the gland nut to see if the leak stops. If not, loosen the nut and wrap PTFE tape around the spindle before tightening it again. If the leak persists, draining the system and replacing the valve may be necessary. If all else fails, calling a plumber is recommended.

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